Recording in progress.
Yeah, that's extra. That's for you. Call, that's your new microphone.
Do so we're ready to go. All right, good afternoon, everyone. I will call this
progress.
I'll call a special meeting of the board of county commissioners together. This is
uh the purpose of this meeting is a workshop on the Jefferson 2024 to 2025. Jefferson
County biennial budget. Um And first up is a public comment period. So if you're
with us online, we have no one in the chambers, but if you're with us online, we'd
love to hear from you and you can, there is no one with us. Um We'll have another
uh public comment period at the conclusion of the workshop. So there will be another
opportunity and there's um I guess potential action ta ta to take today. But uh we'll,
we'll make sure we have that public comment period before that action. Ok. With that
uh take it away mark. And did I see Judy on the meeting? What are you doing here,
Judy? You should be just resting. Yeah, she's multitasking uh resting while um listening
in on this and I Stacy preda might be in on it also. I'm just listening in. Ok. Well,
my, my, my heart's with you right now, Judy. I hope, hope, hope speedy recovery.
Well, thank you. Hopefully it'll be Speedy. All right. Um Commissioners over the
past couple of years, um staff has tried to get the board more involved in the budget
formulation process and uh the last two biennial budget cycles, um department directors
and elected officials have come in um to brief the board on their their budget requests.
Um which I think is a valuable tool to um allow you to ask questions and probe uh
the directors and electors on their budgets. And uh it's also I believe good for
transparency. So the public if they're interested uh can learn more about the county
budget and um our budget formulation process and what we're doing today is brand
new. Also uh in years past what would typically happen is uh I would publish a recommended
budget. You wouldn't see it unless you went to the website and looked it up. And
then on the first Monday in December, you would get a presentation on that, that
budget. Um I think um to further increase transparency in the working board's participation
in the budget formulation process, um We've added an additional step which is what
we're doing today. And um today's sole purpose is to review the ad request by uh
our departments and uh to show you what I'm recommending and to get feedback from
you regarding my recommendation. So that on Monday, when the budgets uh recommended
budget is presented, it's a budget that you've seen and that you agree with. So December
um is uh more of a formality than anything else. So, um I have two products I'll
share, I apologize for not sharing them in advance. It's um it's a relatively simple
process today. Um So this is our, our typical uh projection spreadsheet.
Um what we have used in, in years past um the other spreadsheet, uh
which I will um also share, I'll have to go back and forth. However, um
is this one and this is the consolidated spreadsheet that reflects the asks by
departments and the, the asks are in the blue columns, um revenue, we won't pay that
much attention to uh it's the blue columns where departments are asking for additional
uh budget authority and then the two columns to the right where it says recommended
base ad and recommended one time ad. Uh those two columns have staff's recommendations.
And so, uh when we get to the bottom where it says total general fund, the million
uh 18 and the 484 those are then brought over to the projection spreadsheet and are
plugged into a certain field which then updates the numbers in the projection. So
if the board says no, let's not do that or let's add to this, then I just simply
take the new number, go over to the projection spreadsheet, plug it in there and
you can see what the impact is on the unreserved fund balance all the way out to
the end of 2028. Ok, great. So, uh, I'll just walk from the top, uh,
down through these, um, so, uh, Quinn in elections, um, she thinks she's
gonna have probably five elections next year. And so, um, you can see in, in the,
on the left side, the revenue 175 that's what she believes. She'll be able to charge,
uh, other jurisdictions for those elections. Be it a school bond, um, be at the aquatic
center. Um, then we'll have a primary, um, for, um, federal
offices, um, presidential and we'll have a local primary for local offices and so
on and then, um, offsetting expenses, uh, 1 84 8, 48 the difference there
is that the county will have to shoulder some of the election costs because we'll
have officers running. Um, and we know there are two of them in this room. Um, so
that covers the election piece and then the 46 I mean, don't every, every person
that submits, you know, the one puts their name and also pays a filing fee, does
that filing fee goes straight into the, the auditors revenue? That I don't, I don't
know
that might go to the Secretary of State State elections. Yeah, that, that's what
I'm thinking, but I don't, the county portion is the difference between the 175 and
the 184. So we're saying that we're gonna pay $9000 for elections or am I reading
that wrong? You could read that right. Well, that the, the, the implication is it
would be that, I mean, I didn't dissect her number or ask her to give me election
by election detail. Yeah, that's it. It, it seems as though our cost would be greater
than that. Um But you know, they do, they do recover overhead also. So it's direct
cost plus overhead. And I heard that the, the special like an election costs around
$100,000. That was, that was a quote for county wide. It was 110 is what Quinn
quoted and that was an off the cuff. She didn't sit down, you know, with the note
pad and a pen, she just replied to an email saying about 100 and 10. So if there's
so, yeah, so one would, yeah, I understand these are changes to the budget too, right?
This is the entire budget. Yeah, so I can offer a little bit there if you'd like.
Um, so the more people that are on an election, the more it gets spread across the
people that are in the election. So, uh for instance, if it's just the aquatic center,
which is, I think is what the 110 was for, that is just because it would be a one.
It would be the only thing on the ballot. So therefore, they have the burden of that
entire election uh instead of being, being spread across multiple things that are
happening during that election. Thanks Judy. Mhm. All right. And then the
46,003 13 that is to cover um some printing
expenses uh depreciation on the um tabulation machine, postage for voter registration,
printing for voter registration, uh all of which totals at 46,000. And that's an
ongoing every year. That that addition that, that, that's an ongoing
um voter registration. Uh that's not related to elections. It's just an ongoing uh
effort. I'm sorry, can we go back to II I would love to be able to see the those
documents which we did have digitally somewhere and um Judy, none of us can find
the the budget book, digitally or whatever you prepared for us for one presentation.
Can you talk that?
Yeah, if you give me a minute I can. Ok, you're talking about the preliminary budget,
right? Is that what you're referring to where the uh OK, the details were. So those
are the actual ad forms to understand the base elections. What we're adding to that
would be helpful. Yeah, and I've looked through a V it's funny, I just cannot find
it for some reason. Laser fish. Ok. Let me, let me grab it and I'll get back to you
in just a sec with that. Ok. Sorry, Marin. No, that's fine. I'll send you a link.
I got it, Judy. I'll send, I'll send a link. Did you hear that, Judy?
I'm sorry, I've muted. Yes, I, I heard that. Mhm.
I found it here too. So it's like, um, it's in the beginning. Tabs, it's like tab
four or something like that where they're all grouped together.
Yeah,
I found it too. Mark if you need me to forward it. No, I, I just hit send. Oh, is
it an email? It's funny. I did email. It's an email that Judy sent on the 29th of
September or the one I just sent a second ago around one o'clock. Yeah. Hm.
Thanks. Um,
so if you wanna dig into that elections number. Holy cow.
What's that? Mark?
How weird. Oh, there it is. Collections.
Hm. Are there, um, life links in the PDF? Like, will it jump? Yeah, it'll jump. If
you go on the, towards the top, there's a page if you click on the department. That's
the one I was looking for. Um,
elections. Here we go.
929 at 1256. March is a 20, he said the laser face which doesn't have the live, the
live still work in LA. I just assume nothing works in laser face.
Hm. I have a bad attitude. That laser piece. Ok. So
page 113 of the PDF has the election. Um, assumptions.
So, the cost.
Yeah, that
why can't we do them all at once?
Let's try to do the primary and the general together, right? But can we consolidate?
That's why I should have said strategy is the other? I know.
Hm.
Ok. People just looking through those.
Yeah, I mean, none of these seem optional, right?
Can required
is ready to move on to clerk or sir. All right. Take it away. Mark.
Uh ok. Um Amanda Hamilton has asked for a, a modest increase of
7147 for dues and um salaries and benefits from the court
facilitator. Moving back to the general fund. I, I believe that there was a separate
fund for the court facilitator that was running into fund balance issues. And so
by moving it back to the general fund, that problem disappears. And so we're recommending
that the board approve that um, next line is um,
39,000 and this was not requested by anybody. Um It, it, and it's because I didn't
participate, um, as much as I should have with, uh with Carolyn and Judy and putting
this budget together, but Kate, this is 39,000 to bring the fairgrounds agreement
up to 50. Ok, because we have 11 in the budget now. And so this will enable us to
honor that $50,000 commitment to the fair grounds that
the next one is, um, I met with James and Philip Hunsucker on this, um,
Laura Mickelson is their, their paralegal support and she's sliced about six different
ways. And so, uh, Barbara and Philip end up doing paralegal tasks and that's not
a really good use of lawyer time. And so, um, they're requesting an FTE to add to
the paralegal staff, which will, um, free up a great deal of expensive lawyer time
to do lawyering. And so I'm recommending that we fund that. Ok.
Um, stop with any questions as we go through. And is that enough for an FTE I'd say
FTE. Um, all right. So then, uh, the sheriff had, um, you, you can see
a revenue line there on the left side for the sheriff 275. That's the new Ho contract,
um, which was in place for a good while. And, and then a number of years ago, the
ho pulled out trying to provide their own law enforcement. That effort was a failure.
And so they've come back to the county and Andy did a good job negotiating a higher
rate. Um, 275. Um, and so what, what the sheriff thought
was? Well, jeez, that's new revenue. We could use that for a South county deputy.
And what I discussed with Sheriff Noel, uh, was that, um, when that 200,000 went
away, staffing on the west end remained exactly the same. And so the general fund
covered that cost out of Hyde and now that funding is back. And so, um, that funding
should not go to a South south end deputy. It should go to the general fund as it
did before to cover the cost of the West end. Um, and then, um
regarding the uh continued mental health Navigator and upgrading protective gear
and recording equipment. Um, the sheriff has left substantial budget on the table
at the end of each budget year, going back to 2020. And so I I told Joe that he had
the budget capacity this year to buy the replacement equipment and he has sufficient
budget capacity to, to continue the Navigator um program without any additional help.
And we also um told him that we would purchase the search and rescue vehicle out
of title three monies. So does this mean that we're not getting a South County deputy
unless you want one, how would they demonstrate the, the, the case for South China?
I mean, you know, we, we hear it from the, the, the, the folks that they would love
one and that kind of representation is politically uh would be Port Ludlow wants
one as well. Right. Right. So, um if he, if he, I don't know, he could um break the
calls for service geographically. Uh he could um along with that uh report on response
times, um nature of the crimes um demonstrate a need and
demonstrate a need. Yeah, so that has not been done at all. Demonstrating the need.
Well, we can go to his request and
I feel like I've heard about it a few times and there's anecdotes certainly.
But I don't know if there's data.
Hey, Mark, have you asked Brenda do me to participate there in the attendee list?
Oh. Did you hear that Mark? Do we want Brenda and Naomi to, to come over? Uh, they
could be participants if you know, if they want, if they want to contribute to the
conversation or answer a question that they can raise their.
Hm
I mean, when they did, when the budget present presentation presentation was made
about this idea of a South County deputy, um I feel like I got kind of mixed up with
this whole Western money thing. But yeah, the, the request that they made, um
said it was an additional deputy for the whole contract, but the staffing out there
has never changed. So we got money from the ho we had a number of deputies out there,
the money went away. Same number of deputies, money came back, same number of deputies.
It was in the presentation, uh where uh the ask I think got switched to South County.
So,
and if I can just add the South county deputy was on the 2025 ad request. And so
they were talking about ho in 2024 and the South County in 2025.
Can I mean, is it, can we ask for some, some uh some, some data supporting the need
for the 25 or is it? I did tell Joe that we would strongly consider adding one in
2025 and that we would work with him. I think that's good. We'll have a better idea
of what the economy is doing and we could request some data. Yes. Now, when we take
these numbers over to the projection spreadsheet, um you'll see our current projections
for this year and then four years beyond this year, um which I think will help you
evaluate these uh these requests and we can do what ifs change numbers. And
all right. So, um and so when II, I left the conversation with Joe, he, he
accepted the conversation and, you know, I'm sure he would have preferred to get
it all. But, but we will look hard at a South County deputy. And I think the principal
problem is the response times, right? You know, it's a 30 mile trip to South County
and we recognize that, I mean, and Port Ludlow is a little different situation because
you wouldn't really, I mean, Port, he is fairly close to, you know, I care about
Ludlow just as much as I do Wilson and Brennan. But there's a, there's a, a functional
difference in their responses. And did he have an explanation for the, the significant
carry over is that all departments have carry on? Right. OK. For such a big
department and a big that's probably proportionate. And on the projection slide,
I have a carry over section off to the right where you can see the carry over for
the entire general fund, which factors into the projection. So Mark, can you freeze,
can you, can you freeze the top row? So we can like the at row three? So we can see
what the, the one, no, the one below that. I mean, I just want these headers to be
there. So I I'm spending a lot of time remembering what the header is instead of
listening to what the concert. Isn't that the one? Yeah, but when you scroll down,
they go away. So we're having a lot of discussion between rows. So it would be helpful
to have the headers there while we're talking
no hips.
OK. On three. What's that? Now go to freeze. There you go. Got it.
Thank you. Ok.
Ok. So the treasure big increase of 4000 for her uh repair maintenance contract.
That's big asks every year. Yeah. Ok. The next one operating transfers. So um
there you can, there was no ask for that and that's because um uh the operating
transfers are connected to uh Cooper Cooper Extension,
um Community Development and parks and recreation. So um
oh,
so that 1 99 500 parks asked for 218 642 and Amit at
WSU asked for 49,500. And so I met with Matt
Tyler and, and Monty and asked if they could live with 100 and 50 and they said they
could. And, um, so 100 and 50 plus what, ah, it's asking for is 1 99 5
and the 190 the 150 for parks will help them keep up with inflation and will allow
them to hire a halftime recreation person. So Chris Macklin doesn't burn out, um,
and might even allow some expansion and recreation programs which I think are vital
for our uh adolescents and young kids. And then, um community development asked for
459,000. Uh We know that they're gonna be largely fully staffed next year and they've
got uh consulting contracts to help augment in-house staff. Um We reduced their
transfer in 2023 substantially. And so I'm, and I talked to Josh about this, I told
him we would give him 200 but uh late yesterday when I looked at revenues, um I bumped
this up to 300,000 and with a commitment to Josh that, uh should it be clear that
he need, needs more next year that we would, uh look at doing a supplemental
is the um uh revenue from Department of Commerce for the comp plan. Is that not reflected
here? Um No grant, those grants will be uh budget neutral.
Ok. So we'll, if we get the 350 we'll bill against the 350 but we won't get 350
unless we spend it. And so, um, so this ask is to help cover, uh, expenses that are
not covered by fees. Ok. Hm. Um, all
right. So Judge Mac, um, he, uh, I think during this presentation, he mentioned that
he wanted to make greater use of his court commissioners and, um, he wants to pay
them more because I think they just recently on their own increased the pay from
75 to 100 and, and now they would like to go to 100 and 25. And so what this does
is it funds 50 hours a month for 12 months at 100 and $25 an hour. Um, and
he already has 16,000 in there. So we're offering to, um, to, to give him another
66,500. And uh when I met with him and Sophie, he said he could, he could work with
that. And once again, I, I told him that we'll keep an eye on actuals and, and should
he exceed the 50 hours that we'd look at giving him additional budget?
Yeah. Didn't you have questions about that though? Mark, didn't you have questions
about that? Ask? Um,
I, I did, I, I think, I think Judge Mac has AAA different philosophy about operating
the court. Um um, and I'm hearing, you know, you talk to him about that when you
met with him. I did. Ok. Yeah. And I'm, I'm convinced that his regime is gonna be
good for the county. And good for the people that appear in the court. He's trying
to make the courtroom more friendly. He's actually working with Matt Court to put,
uh, art on the walls and just to make it more comfortable, I think the, the benches
are gonna return. Um, and so, uh, yeah. Ok, I just, I remember you
saying something on the side. So, ok. And then the, the next one, this is the, the
large one. this is non departmental. Uh There are a variety of reasons that costs
are going up. Um information services and facilities uh costs are increasing. Um
Also um property tax. The cost of Jeff com is all by itself is 100,000.
And then of course, we've seen remarkable increases in uh premiums for insurance
and we have a, a cost escalator for indigent defense and um quite a few line items
that, you know, we could have put a laundry list here. But these are just examples
of some of the cost drivers. What are the other high ones just out of curiosity?
Uh Well, the contract for enter gov, Jerry Mulan, that's, that's a, that's a big
one strategic plan. We're starting to pay strategies 360. Now, out of that budget
and CCC went way way up, I was due might go way up. The news
used to be about 1 to 6000 a month and now they're like 36. It cost 100 grand for
the last audit. Yeah, but we're getting a good report. So it was that pay more for
that, get what you pay for a little on the side. That's the Humane society and that,
that's new. Um I'm working with the Humane Society and um I'm gonna
bring when I have the time to do it, I'm gonna bring a proposal to the board. Um
and I, I just think it would be smart to have some budget capacity. Um So whenever
an agreement is reached to help the Humane Society stay afloat, we have the budget
capacity to actually fulfill whatever commitment you sign up for. I don't understand
the property tax one. What does that mean?
Um
cars that they own? And so yeah, that's right. Yeah, we we own 300 of them.
It's not a lot of money. Yeah, but everything, every item just kinda has gone up.
Um
like I said, there's so many line items, I'm having a hard time finding it right
now.
So uh when you, when you total these amounts, you have an ongoing increase of a million
18, 221 and a one time, a 4 84 8 48. So then if we
walk those numbers,
can we before you were there things that you decided not to include in this that
were made? No. Ok. Ok. If it was requested it's on the sheet. Ok. Just because
I don't have the power to say no. Ok, I can convince somebody to withdraw, right?
But I can't say no, I know you had a lot of conversations so I just want to have
anything I did not capital. So it's all inclusive. Ok? That doesn't include capital.
No. Ok. So I gotta shrink this just a little bit. Ok. So I mentioned carry
over on the right side, you can see there's a carryover section. So I went back to
2019 and looked at expense budget and actuals for the all the way through
2022 and I'm projecting out through the end of this year. And so if you take the
expenditure budget less actual, you get what I what I call the residual and then
you divide the residual by the budget to get the carryover percentage. And so, and
then if you sum all of those on the right side, um you get a five year average of
7.19% carry over which is unexpended budget. And so um then
the carryover appears on the left side down here in this purple section and I can
change that number. And so let me just, and it, it makes a a pretty dramatic difference
in the projected fund balance. So if I go to 5% and you can see that projected
unreserved fund balance drops rather significantly.
So that's an important number. Uh 5.5 is, you know, based on 7.195 0.5
appears to be conservative. And so I'm, I'm comfortable with, with using a 5.5 a
lot of sense. And then, um, below that, you see the 1,000,018 221 if we change that
number, it will change this number and this number. And then beyond that,
the 29 is increased by 3% in each of the remaining
years. And this one time appears only in the expenditure number in the
same column. It does not carry over into the columns to the right. So, uh if you
were to want to change what's on the ad sheet to say, let's give them the sheriff
of South County deputy. We could plug that number in on that spreadsheet. Bring the
new number over here and then see what the impact is at the end of the five years.
Um Can we do that just for the fun of it?
We can before you do that. Um Do you mind explaining under 2025 budget? Why does
it, why do the expenditures drop? Because the one times that are in 2024 don't reappear.
That's minus the 484 taken out. Yeah, 448 480. There's more than that. There's a
million, it's short, it goes down a million three.
Um, let's see. Yeah.
Is it the total of the ongoing in the one time? No, it's 1 million. 3000
ish.
Oh yeah.
Hmm.
Is it sub it's subtracting 72 line 72.
Yeah,
what the likely explanation is is that in, in the base budgets there are items that
fell out in 2025. Um I don't know what those items are. I mean, we could identify
them but um but what we start with in that column is the sum of the
base budgets and then we um we don't add any um um
uh yeah, we, we don't um act on any of the requests for 2025 when we're looking at
the biennial budget, we look at those in the subsequent biennium review, but we invite
them to propose for the second year. Mhm. So the ba if I can just add
here, that might help explain the 2024 and 2025 are two different budgets. So there
are two separate budgets even though we're calling it a biennial. And so when people
are submitting their base budget for 2025 it's not necessarily going to be the same
as their 2024 budget.
Does that help explain that?
Ok. Can we now go over to the ad and add the sheriff expenses? And that's what happens.
I wish I could share two screens at once.
There's probably a way to ask that A I grade
South County is gonna be in that 2025 admir request the next tab over. Yeah.
Well, they have, there's a, there's a deputy ask for 2024. So I'll just use the numbers
that are in there. But like that spreadsheet you have open, you have the other tab
is the 25 General flo asks that. Wouldn't that be exactly what they're asking for?
What? But it, it's a, it's just a lump sum.
So, additional deputies. So, they've got the hoe and the south county deputy in there.
Yeah. So it's gonna be on that individual worksheet. Ok.
All right. So they got 100 and 38 3 40 in here for, um, for the deputy himself
plus a vehicle. So 168.
So then we take that number.
Hm.
Ok. So you see how that, the million that we had there goes to 187.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man,
I hate it when those blue lines come up. Hm.
Yeah, I have a zoom screen somewhere that disappeared on me.
Sorry.
Had you put it in on 25 or 24? I didn't see you put it in, you put it in 24.
Oh, ok. Now, hm. Excuse me for a sec.
Any, uh, thoughts that you guys have on the, uh, the recommendations that we've seen
so far while it works on that.
Um, I appreciate that we're trying to give every department something. Um, and I
know it's not as much as they wanted, but given our strong revenues it's good to
be in a position to be able to try and meet some of them. II, I don't feel any of
the assets were frivolous. Um, so, um, I, I just appreciate Mark and Judy and have
grown up with that. Yep.
I don't have any questions because we went through all of these. We understand and
reasonable responses Countywide. Yeah. I mean, the, the hard part is
when revenues downturn which they will eventually, it's, you know, that that's when
you got to cut. So we're in a good position of figuring out what to add. That's what
we were talking about. That transit finance yesterday was we should be reviewing
more than sales tax because sales tax is just our big rosy picture right now. You
know, so were there two components of our rosy revenue uh picture? One is sales tax.
The other is investment income, which I for at least two more years,
probably, maybe longer. No, no. And what was GDP growth for 4.5%
plus, and the fed was talking about they didn't raise them again, but they
could have, I believe the last finance meeting was my prediction the way I don't
know if recall, but the last finance meeting I predicted that they would not raise
them again. Oh, ok.
The magnificent. Yeah, that's right. Broken clock twice a day. Are there any areas
where you anticipate budget ads next year that we're not thinking about right now
that we should be free meditating? Um
You know, I, I, I think what if you approve. This is, this is a substantial, uh,
I do know that we have three bargaining agreements next year with, um, deputies.
Um, and I imagine they'll push a hard bargain. Uh, they'll look at what we've done
for UFCW and what we're hoping to do for the other three bargaining units. Um, and
they'll want at least that and they'll, they'll come loaded with comp studies and,
and so, um, that'll be AAA fairly significant increase in compensation that will
impact the projection. That's why, you know, having a million and unreserved out
in, at the end of 2028 I think it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling if you gave him the,
the South county deputy, now it would drop that down significantly. So, um, no, that's,
that's good thinking. I asked that question. Now, we, we do have, um, the money that
was set aside in 2020 as a result of our very strong performance in 2019.
We moved a million in cap uh general fund money into the capital fund, which is now
in the sewer fund providing liquidity for the sewer project. Um, once the line of
credit is approved, then that million becomes less essential to the sewer project.
Uh, and mani believes that, um, barring some dramatic escalation in bid
prices that million will come back.
Ok, I have a good picture. Mhm. Ok. So not looking
for AAA motion to approve anything. Um, but, um, I'm just looking for guidance on
anything you would like to tweak here or can we look back at the change the ads that
other your other zoom screen just so we can be.
So in your conversation with parks, the original amount that they wanted was 212,
28. So what are they, what are they, um did they talk about what they would not do
as a result of a decrease in the amount we give them? Well, they were hoping um for,
I think um stipends for caretakers
for parks caretakers,
what do you make them clerk hire then? Yeah. Yeah, because they already get some
stipends.
Do they thought they just got the free rooms? Yeah. Um
ok, one second
I can look too.
Oh, sure will.
And I thought they wanted a full time. I thought they were trying to add two
positions. Remember I asked Matt if you had to choose one position, which one would
you choose? So, I think that was a parks maintenance person and uh um uh uh rec support
person. So I think it's looking, you know, more like 1.5 or two, half or 2150 might
be two lower paid positions.
That's what I remember the esop being. So they um
yeah, they asked for 83,000 $83,642. I got finally got to that
page. Yeah. So new Halftime Recreation supervisor.
And that's what's in the your pro your proposed ad, right? Mark. You know, um, they
actually asked for, for more than that. Uh, and I don't pay duty
under parks improvement too. Maybe.
Well, they had asked for, um, the sixth six caretakers,
a full time parks maintenance person. And then, like, I think you said the half time
one for Chris Mackin Macklin. Yeah. Well, they must have submitted a revised a form
because the one I have doesn't have the full time maintenance person on it. Oh,
so when I was reviewing their budget and I'm sorry, I'm trying to remember this.
Um when I was reviewing their budget, they had 100 and 35,000 in one of their
sheets that wasn't in their ad. And the expectation is that it would just go forward
and I had to have them put that 135,000 in the ad. So let me, I need to find my email
from K on that part. Part of what, what they need is to cover um the pay
adjustments uh due to the bargaining agreements that we reached and uh increased
costs elsewhere. And they also wanted to fund a stipend program to recruit and retain
part caretakers, serving, serving six county parks. And so
100 and 50,000 allows them to hire the halftime recreation supervisor and cover increased
um increased costs and um actually pay a stipend to some of the park's
caretakers but not add the, but not add the maintenance person. No. And,
um, we did give him a, an additional maintenance FTE, I think two years ago. And
so they're, I believe they're up to staffing on the maintenance side where they were,
um, pre, great recession, but their park usage has gone up 200% in the last 13 years.
But Matt was thrilled with the 150. I bet it was.
Yeah, I just, I think we should be, um, cautious. This is cautiously optimistic.
I don't think we can afford to be fully optimistic. Yes, I, you know, I tried to
thread the needle here. I think you did a good job. I think you did a good job threading
the needle. I do too. I'm just niggling around on the questions and the changes.
Mhm. The fine print. Do you know what the, the superior Court modification does that
mean they're gonna stay vendors? But just increase the rate or they want to make
them clerk so that this will still allow them to make them clerk hire with 50 hours
and then they get sick leave, I guess, 50 hours per month. Ok.
Yeah, I don't have any other questions on that
recommended ads. Ok, Judy. Did you have anything else you wanted to add?
Sorry. No, I don't. Um, I think we've explained it pretty well. Mark did a great
job with that and, um, our next step is we'll plug these into the recommended and
then that would be in the presentation for Monday, I believe. Uh yeah, we don't,
we don't make a recommended budget presentation that we just publish. Ok. Oh, ok.
Sorry, I'm getting that confused with the one I think in December. Ok. So what we'll
do is go ahead. That's why I had no, we listening in. So she kinda had first look
at these, so she'll be doing the entries and then we will publish it on Monday and
then have the hearing at the beginning of December 1st Monday and then adoption the
second Monday. Ok. Sounds good. It sounds like there's no objections. Ok. As you
said, you said, threaded the needle very well with the asks. And as Kate said, there's
not, it doesn't seem like there's frivolous asks. So, you know, as much as we can
cautiously optimistically, uh, fulfill these requests, it seems reasonable. Yeah.
And we have a biannual review to be able to, yeah. Yeah. Add
or remove things as needed. Ok. Anything else before I open up for a second public
comment, period? Yep, Carol
action. There's no action to be taken today.
Um All right, I will open it up. If anyone who's with us would like to make public
comment, we would love to hear from you. You can raise hand or star nine. If you're
on the phone, nobody in the room, nobody in the room, I'll ask one more time. You
would like to make public comments. Ok, I will close public comments and uh thank
you, Mark. Thank you Judy for all your work. You know, we've uh I do appreciate the
ever expanded uh transparency into this process that I've, I've learned a lot through
this. So um yeah, really helpful. Thank you. Anything else for the good of the order
before I close the meeting? No, appreciate the work. Ok. The special media of the
Bocc is hereby adjourned. Have a great day. Everyone see everyone back here on Monday,
back at our normal time. Take care Judy. We're pulling housing fun board off from
this memorial week. Did you hear that, Judy? We're not, we'll just, we'll come back
to housing fun board next week. Oh, ok. All right. Thank you.
Really?
Mm.
You never know when your day is gonna take a bad turn. Do you jeez. Walk into your
car to go to work. My mom had a bad fall too this week. Just.